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Handle Initial Rejection Like a Boss  

VenusRedux2 49F
276 messages
9/3/2017 11h26
Handle Initial Rejection Like a Boss





Most meets don’t happen on the first attempt no matter how good you are. No need for histrionics. Don’t whine. Don’t complain. It is all part of the game. Learn how to use it to your advantage.





How you handle that rejection matters a great deal to her. Most guys fall apart. On the other hand, handling it well can lay the groundwork for her to be receptive next time. That’s the key.

Confident men know there will be other opportunities. There will be other nights. There will be other chances. There will even be other women.

Needy people, upon given a polite “not tonight,” start negotiating. They beg and plead “Please … just meet me for dinner and a drink … I promise I won’t expect anything more …” Do you really need me to tell you how many things are wrong with that? Women don’t respect this. They don’t want to meet someone who is so needy.

Don’t bargain either. “Please … you won’t even have to do anything … I’ll please you and you won’t have to do anything for me …” Seriously, has this ever worked for anyone? Yet I get it all the time. Do you need it spelled out how insanely desperate that sounds? You’ve just established your value on the market as being exactly nothing. You’ve just downgraded your offer in a feeble attempt to make it sound more appealing. You’ve succeeded only in making it less appealing. If you don’t value it, why should I?

On a similar vein, “Please … just for 10 minutes to get some coffee …” while not overly sexualized as in the above example, it is still attempting to bargain. The first offer was for sex, now it’s a downgrade to coffee. If that’s what you really wanted all along, then open with that. The way it is now, it’s not taking no for an answer. It is begging. Don’t beg. Ever.

All of these examples have one thing in common … they are attempts at altering the expectations. Confident men don’t do this. They’re not ashamed of what they want. They don’t barter for anything less than what they want. It is a clear signal to the woman that they don’t play on that level. Her opinion of you will be irrevocably lowered. You will not recover from it.

Don’t bring it up again EVERY subsequent conversation.
… “How about today?”
… “Today maybe?”
… “I’m free today, how does today look?”


Women get really annoyed by this.

If you want to portray confidence, have subsequent conversations with her that are similar to the conversations from before (which should be fun, flirty, and playful … but not overly sexual). It signals that everything is ok despite the rejection, that it’s not a big deal. Play it off as nothing more than bad timing. That takes tremendous pressure off the next attempt to meet … that’s really what you’re doing here, setting up the subsequent attempts to meet.

By taking the initial rejection gracefully, you demonstrate your willingness to walk away and thereby signal confidence.

Ideally, you want to put the idea out there so as to signal that you’re interested in meeting. If you come off too strong, it will be off-putting. If it doesn’t come up at all, she’ll wonder where this is all going.

Me: I just finished a documentary about the history of General Tso’s Chicken
Him: And this is the stuff you find riveting?
Me: I’m telling you, it was!
Him: This is why you’ll never find a man
Me: Shut up! LOL
Him: Anyway, I gotta head out and get those errands done. Today feels like a smoothie day. The bakery over on North Main has great smoothies. I’m going to stop there and get one in about half an hour. Feel free to join me if you’re also feeling the urge for one
Me: Thanks, but I have things I gotta do
Him: That’s fine, another time then, enjoy your day

I DARE women to tell me they wouldn’t give that serious consideration. Maybe I won’t put a pair of shoes on right then and there and meet this guy, but he’s definitely going to be given serious consideration down the line.

Remember, that’s the goal – Down the line.

As opposed to this example here, where he wants a high pressure meet right now:

Him: What do you like?
Me: I like watching Netflix documentaries
Him: About what?
Me: Anything really, whatever I come across
Him: Any good ones lately?
Me: I saw one about General Tso’s Chicken
[silence]
Him: cool
Really? Took you 18 minutes to come up with that?
Me: Yeah
[more silence]
Him: Want to meet up sometime?
Me: I barely know you, it is too soon to be talking about meeting
Him: What do you want to know?
Ouch! Very bad question
Me: More than I know now
Him: I’m 5’11, 190, blond hair, brown eyes, divorced, no kids
Me: Cool. I saw the pic on your profile
Him: So you want to meet?
Come on, your last request wasn’t even 5 minutes ago, pull yourself together
Me: Of course, telling me your height and weight made all the difference to change my mind
Him: So you’ll meet?
Me: Maybe the sarcasm didn’t come through quite right
Him: I’m just saying, there’s no point talking if it’s never going to be a possibility
Me: You want me to agree to meet you, and only after agreeing do I get to know you? That’s all kinds of backwards

From here on, it degrades into an argument as he tries to rewrite the conversation and insinuating that I somehow misread what he meant. That only serves to make me defensive, so the conversation has nowhere to go but down. Rapidly.

In my next post, I’ll discuss this further and give my thoughts as to why first attempts at meeting are almost always bound to fail. Nothing earth shattering. It’s just the mundane reasons of life.

I’ll also discuss what makes a tempting offer to meet, so you can be a bit more successful.




Cmecme 42F
6 messages
9/3/2017 13h24

That was excellent! Just wish there was a way that guys could read this before posting anything. The desperation and begging happens way too often!! It's sickening.


VenusRedux2 replies on 9/3/2017 14h23:
I know, right. These are the trashy fantasies I have. It's not a 18 inch schlong pounding me mercilessly (ouch!), it's just a guy who can talk like he's got something to offer.

.... and maybe if he says in that voice from the guy from the Allstate commercials, that too

KItkat1415 61F  
20051 messages
9/3/2017 13h21

I thought I commented on this.
Good post.
kk

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VenusRedux2 replies on 9/3/2017 13h23:
Even if you did, nothing says you can't comment twice

Thanks though

iwalkstilts 48H
2869 messages
9/3/2017 12h43

Good info, thanks for the tips.


VenusRedux2 replies on 9/3/2017 12h52:
Hope it helps! Good luck!

porterpiper1 57F
3755 messages
9/3/2017 12h02

I feel you, I tried to turn someone down nicely, didn't hear from the guy in two days, well just got a message he will pay to meet, what the fuck? idiot I was nice now I told him to kiss my ass and don't contact me again, I blocked him


VenusRedux2 replies on 9/3/2017 12h32:
Nothing quite SCREAMS desperation more than "I'm willing to pay you like you're a call girl." All women would immediately conclude he can't get laid any other way. Who wants the guy every other woman rejected? ... fine catch you had there, lucky you.

VenusRedux2 49F
557 messages
9/3/2017 11h39

He dribbles to the left...

Pump fake...

He shoots...

.................... REJECTED! Into the 3rd row. He's gotta be feeling embarrassed about that. That was not a wise move against the league's top shot blocker.


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